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04-07 11:30 AM
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susie
11-04 10:39 AM
Excellent point.
Discrimation between children is disgusting
so are there any laws against discrimination that we can use and file class action to challenge the cspa
Discrimation between children is disgusting
so are there any laws against discrimination that we can use and file class action to challenge the cspa
illusions
04-07 02:57 PM
illusions,
They are processing based on RD not PD. I have early 2004 PD but RD is JULY 30, I guess I have wait for a while.
ty for the info. I guess u are way better off than me in that case, i've got a PD of July 06, and RD Mid Sept.... so a long wait..... for me.
They are processing based on RD not PD. I have early 2004 PD but RD is JULY 30, I guess I have wait for a while.
ty for the info. I guess u are way better off than me in that case, i've got a PD of July 06, and RD Mid Sept.... so a long wait..... for me.
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immuser
01-25 07:18 PM
Just one point Slumdog -- You know, I have never seen anyone who rents, writing this kind of a story and justifying his decision. I wonder, why not? Why do YOU have to justify over here? Are you justifying to others or you are justifying to yourself?
You put too much stress on "quality of life". One can have a good quality of life in a small apartment.
I keep telling my wife that our apartment looks small only when she goes to department stores and shops like crazy. Our walk-in-closet is the nearest thing to a Black Hole. Mass density is so high in that area that pretty soon even light would not come out of it.
I strongly believe in "Simple Living, High Thinking". I can not say I implement it all the time, however, I try to keep it in my mind during my decision making process.
Slumdog, You have great writing skills.
"One can have a good quality of life in a small apartment...."
Not true - a small apt is a small apt no matter what. Yes, you can live with peace of mind in a small apt, and yes you can live happily in a small apt. This does not equate to quality of life. The "quality of life" in a 4 bedroom house with back yard is greater than that in a small 650 sq ft single bedroom apt ( if you put the same person who was happy in the small apt into the 4 bedroom house - even if his happiness level remains the same, his quality of life just went up)
You put too much stress on "quality of life". One can have a good quality of life in a small apartment.
I keep telling my wife that our apartment looks small only when she goes to department stores and shops like crazy. Our walk-in-closet is the nearest thing to a Black Hole. Mass density is so high in that area that pretty soon even light would not come out of it.
I strongly believe in "Simple Living, High Thinking". I can not say I implement it all the time, however, I try to keep it in my mind during my decision making process.
Slumdog, You have great writing skills.
"One can have a good quality of life in a small apartment...."
Not true - a small apt is a small apt no matter what. Yes, you can live with peace of mind in a small apt, and yes you can live happily in a small apt. This does not equate to quality of life. The "quality of life" in a 4 bedroom house with back yard is greater than that in a small 650 sq ft single bedroom apt ( if you put the same person who was happy in the small apt into the 4 bedroom house - even if his happiness level remains the same, his quality of life just went up)
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Totoro
03-31 04:40 PM
If I can ask a few dumb questions:) (I might have overlooked this but these details, but this thread is huge now). When is the hearing? Who is conducting is? Is IV core involved?
How can other members here help apart from posting to this thread and $ contributions?
thx
It was not a hearing, just a meeting with some of the people I worked with over the past year on the stimulus issue.
Anyway, I went to the meeting and presented the issues raised by people here and emphasized that the first priority is recapture. Of course I raised the other issues as well, presenting the argument that America will lose its competitive edge if its highly skilled immigrants return to their home countries or other more welcoming countries like Canada, the UK, and Australia.
One person at the meeting was skeptical that many people have been waiting more than 10 years, saying that she has never come across anyone waiting more than 6 years and that these must be special cases where the people were doing something wrong. Anyway, I presented the stories people sent me, but when I raised the issue of granting a fast track to people waiting for more than 10 years, she said that there must be a good reason for it. They need to look at each person on a case by case basis and that a fast track would not be the proper way to resolve these issues. There was a lot of resistance from this person on several issues with the only wholehearted agreement on the issue of getting visas stamped in the US.
In short, I didn't get a sense that much would come of the meeting, but at least I had a chance to present the issues and I was given an assurance that they would be looked into further and discussed at some upcoming meetings. Finally, I said that the best way for them to understand the issues faced by immigrants is to be in contact with immigrants. I also suggested they join the IV discussions to get first hand accounts.
One recommendation they had was than anyone who has been waiting for an unreasonable time for their applications to be processed should contact their congressman/congresswoman with information about their specific cases.
How can other members here help apart from posting to this thread and $ contributions?
thx
It was not a hearing, just a meeting with some of the people I worked with over the past year on the stimulus issue.
Anyway, I went to the meeting and presented the issues raised by people here and emphasized that the first priority is recapture. Of course I raised the other issues as well, presenting the argument that America will lose its competitive edge if its highly skilled immigrants return to their home countries or other more welcoming countries like Canada, the UK, and Australia.
One person at the meeting was skeptical that many people have been waiting more than 10 years, saying that she has never come across anyone waiting more than 6 years and that these must be special cases where the people were doing something wrong. Anyway, I presented the stories people sent me, but when I raised the issue of granting a fast track to people waiting for more than 10 years, she said that there must be a good reason for it. They need to look at each person on a case by case basis and that a fast track would not be the proper way to resolve these issues. There was a lot of resistance from this person on several issues with the only wholehearted agreement on the issue of getting visas stamped in the US.
In short, I didn't get a sense that much would come of the meeting, but at least I had a chance to present the issues and I was given an assurance that they would be looked into further and discussed at some upcoming meetings. Finally, I said that the best way for them to understand the issues faced by immigrants is to be in contact with immigrants. I also suggested they join the IV discussions to get first hand accounts.
One recommendation they had was than anyone who has been waiting for an unreasonable time for their applications to be processed should contact their congressman/congresswoman with information about their specific cases.
roseball
05-30 12:11 AM
Well, I would suggest them to hire a very good lawyer to plead their case as an honest mistake and hope that USCIS acknowledges it and approves her H4....
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01-16 12:59 AM
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vivekjay
04-07 01:07 PM
During the last comprehensive immigration reform bill that fell apart there was an amendment to give citizenship to people who are fluent in English withinin 4years of thier permanent residency. It could come up again if there is another comprehensive immigration bill. Just wishful thinking at best right now.
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pamith
05-04 12:28 AM
After 9 years in US and 4 years of 485 pending, GC Approved.
Case at NSC
Online Status:
Your Case Status: Card/ Document Production
Praise the Lord!
Thank You Jesus.
Case at NSC
Online Status:
Your Case Status: Card/ Document Production
Praise the Lord!
Thank You Jesus.
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tanu_75
05-04 08:55 PM
> On the same note guys..Nothing changes after GC.
Actually, it does. If you get a GC, you have the option to get citizenship in 5 yrs. If
you get citizenship, you can get Social security.....irrespective of whether you live in
US or in Timbaktu. So IMO, the biggest advantage of GC is getting back the money
you've been paying as part of Social security taxes.
And for those of you who think Social Security will run bankrupt....that will never happen,
or the US president will lose his job. The Govt will always fund SS even if it means
increasing a ballooning deficit.
Not only do you get SS but you also have to pay taxes to US irrespective of where you live for the rest of your life. So on a net it is still arguable depending on your long term residency plan. And my friend, Social Security is going away in the next 10 years. You think the USA can maintain this kind of a deficit for ever with people not willing to see an increase in taxes.
Actually, it does. If you get a GC, you have the option to get citizenship in 5 yrs. If
you get citizenship, you can get Social security.....irrespective of whether you live in
US or in Timbaktu. So IMO, the biggest advantage of GC is getting back the money
you've been paying as part of Social security taxes.
And for those of you who think Social Security will run bankrupt....that will never happen,
or the US president will lose his job. The Govt will always fund SS even if it means
increasing a ballooning deficit.
Not only do you get SS but you also have to pay taxes to US irrespective of where you live for the rest of your life. So on a net it is still arguable depending on your long term residency plan. And my friend, Social Security is going away in the next 10 years. You think the USA can maintain this kind of a deficit for ever with people not willing to see an increase in taxes.
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ajay_hyd
05-15 06:07 AM
usually how long will they take to approve the case if u r priority date is current ?
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minimalist
01-24 10:02 PM
They call themselves rich because of bank balances but in my
It doesn't matter what your views are, if they have money in the bank they are actually "rich". If they can maintain the same life style in good times and bad times, they are rich. They can provide food, shelter and health insurance for their family during tough times, they are rich. Unfortunately your views will NOT pay bills, so you can distribute them freely on this forum all you want it won't make a difference.
In my opinion ,this is what is most important. What good it is to live like kings for few years.
It doesn't matter what your views are, if they have money in the bank they are actually "rich". If they can maintain the same life style in good times and bad times, they are rich. They can provide food, shelter and health insurance for their family during tough times, they are rich. Unfortunately your views will NOT pay bills, so you can distribute them freely on this forum all you want it won't make a difference.
In my opinion ,this is what is most important. What good it is to live like kings for few years.
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sdrblr
09-01 09:06 PM
Just a quick question to people who had their 485 approved.
Did any one of you have two different A#s (one on 140 and other on 485)?
I have two different A #s and in when I applied for AP and EAD, I had used the one on 485 and both were approved.
Did any one of you have two different A#s (one on 140 and other on 485)?
I have two different A #s and in when I applied for AP and EAD, I had used the one on 485 and both were approved.
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brb2
06-05 09:07 AM
The objection by house members to this bill is the easy way out for the reps, who are in trouble for a million things such as high gas prices, another Vietnam type bogging down in Iraq, high spending on medicare etc. The only way for conservatives to curry favors with their base is to throw in the defense of marriage bill, and do nothing about the CIR. The next few days will be critical for the bill. It dies or goes to the conference where it might come out radically changed.
I am opening a new thread to post all updates on the CIR. It seems today is a crucial day when the house comes in session and work on forming the committee might start. If people hear any updates you can post in this thread.
I read on immigration-law that conservative republications are trying to torpedo the CIR with a new technical legislative argument. It sure is going to be a difficult task to have this bill passed since house has republican majority and they are saying in the media that they will not have the bill passed.
"Report indicates that the House hardliners who opposed the Senate-passed S. 2611 have come up with a weapon to block the House-Senate Conference Committee and the S.2611. The weapon they have hammered out involves a constitutional issue as to whether the provision in S. 2611 that requires guest worker applicants to "pay the back taxes" as condition for the legal status constitutes a federal government's measure to raise the revenue. These hardliners argue that the U.S. Constitution mandates that any legislation to raise revenue for the government must originate in the House and S. 2611 violated the U.S. Constitution by originating such legislative bill in the Senate. When the Congress returns on Monday, there will be a see-saw fight between the S. 2611 proponents and opponents on this legal technicality issue. One wonders how the House hardliners would defend their prior violations in the past in another legislations that involved such legal technicality issues. Besides, there is no clear definition as to whether such back-tax payment requirement indeed constitutes a revenue raising measure. "
I am opening a new thread to post all updates on the CIR. It seems today is a crucial day when the house comes in session and work on forming the committee might start. If people hear any updates you can post in this thread.
I read on immigration-law that conservative republications are trying to torpedo the CIR with a new technical legislative argument. It sure is going to be a difficult task to have this bill passed since house has republican majority and they are saying in the media that they will not have the bill passed.
"Report indicates that the House hardliners who opposed the Senate-passed S. 2611 have come up with a weapon to block the House-Senate Conference Committee and the S.2611. The weapon they have hammered out involves a constitutional issue as to whether the provision in S. 2611 that requires guest worker applicants to "pay the back taxes" as condition for the legal status constitutes a federal government's measure to raise the revenue. These hardliners argue that the U.S. Constitution mandates that any legislation to raise revenue for the government must originate in the House and S. 2611 violated the U.S. Constitution by originating such legislative bill in the Senate. When the Congress returns on Monday, there will be a see-saw fight between the S. 2611 proponents and opponents on this legal technicality issue. One wonders how the House hardliners would defend their prior violations in the past in another legislations that involved such legal technicality issues. Besides, there is no clear definition as to whether such back-tax payment requirement indeed constitutes a revenue raising measure. "
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gc_check
09-25 01:25 PM
Reverting back to the original interpretation for allocating unused visa from other category and to oversubscribed country from the current new interpretation seems to be the only possible quick relief to EB3, though EB2 gets affected it is not going to be that severe.
**** Not sure, what is core IV's stand on this. Have not seen any update from core with regards to this ***
If we can approach the USCIS /DOS for Admin fix in this area, this should be possible, given that IV already has some success in the Admin Fix area. But seeing the lack of response from core IV for this particular thread (Overall they do a good job) regarding spill over, visa allocation, makes me this, core IV is not thinking there is an error with the new interpretation or IV was one of the main source that was instrumental for this change. The new spillover helps only India (EB2) looking at the number of pending cases from China and ROW. China hardly has less than 1000 cases prior to Mar '05 PD for EB2.
I'm not sure what happened to fellow EB3 ROW members... These folks at least will be current soon.. and India / China cutoff date will move the later PD very soon.
Comment plz... I would like to see what ROW member thinks... along with folks from oversubscribed countries
The title of the thread is misleading.
IV is already helping. The aim of IV is to eliminate retrogression so that everyone does not have to wait. We also understand that EB3 I is in a much greater mess than anyone else.
Good to see a response from Pappu. I genuinely understand IV is working for a relief for the entire EB Community and not biased for a specific category or to people from a specific country. But would it not be justified, If IV also address any specific issue that is causing severely pain to a specific groups of people and affects them negatively , along side with the core goals IV is working on.
Does IV think that changes made to the interpretation to the VISA allocation a good change and does IV also share the concern of few folks posting in this thread.
I think the lack of more active participation from EB3 members is due to the fact, is lack of confidence anything is going to change.
I do know, couple colleagues, who were not able to file 485 during July fiasco due to their labor approval after July '07 and missed filing 485 with PD's 03 /04 all in EB3 and I do feel for people like them as well.
Give the political climate / economic climate, anything through congress seems like it will at least couple years, admin fix might provide some benefits to folks really waiting with PD 01 / 03 at least.... Just my 2 cents.
Having said this, I do support IV's effort now and will do in future as well.
**** Not sure, what is core IV's stand on this. Have not seen any update from core with regards to this ***
If we can approach the USCIS /DOS for Admin fix in this area, this should be possible, given that IV already has some success in the Admin Fix area. But seeing the lack of response from core IV for this particular thread (Overall they do a good job) regarding spill over, visa allocation, makes me this, core IV is not thinking there is an error with the new interpretation or IV was one of the main source that was instrumental for this change. The new spillover helps only India (EB2) looking at the number of pending cases from China and ROW. China hardly has less than 1000 cases prior to Mar '05 PD for EB2.
I'm not sure what happened to fellow EB3 ROW members... These folks at least will be current soon.. and India / China cutoff date will move the later PD very soon.
Comment plz... I would like to see what ROW member thinks... along with folks from oversubscribed countries
The title of the thread is misleading.
IV is already helping. The aim of IV is to eliminate retrogression so that everyone does not have to wait. We also understand that EB3 I is in a much greater mess than anyone else.
Good to see a response from Pappu. I genuinely understand IV is working for a relief for the entire EB Community and not biased for a specific category or to people from a specific country. But would it not be justified, If IV also address any specific issue that is causing severely pain to a specific groups of people and affects them negatively , along side with the core goals IV is working on.
Does IV think that changes made to the interpretation to the VISA allocation a good change and does IV also share the concern of few folks posting in this thread.
I think the lack of more active participation from EB3 members is due to the fact, is lack of confidence anything is going to change.
I do know, couple colleagues, who were not able to file 485 during July fiasco due to their labor approval after July '07 and missed filing 485 with PD's 03 /04 all in EB3 and I do feel for people like them as well.
Give the political climate / economic climate, anything through congress seems like it will at least couple years, admin fix might provide some benefits to folks really waiting with PD 01 / 03 at least.... Just my 2 cents.
Having said this, I do support IV's effort now and will do in future as well.
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05-17 08:41 AM
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anai
07-19 08:14 AM
It is mindblowing to see insensitive posts with regard to folks stuck at BEC.
IV core has stated repeatedly that the BEC issue is on its agenda. Thanks.
To those members who say that "life isn't fair so get over it": We are here at IV not to get used to unfairness, but to do something about it. I was stuck at BEC for many years. It is the most unpredictable of all GC stages; and those who didn't have to go through the BEC mess should consider themselves lucky. Cases can drag on for years; cases get closed arbitrarily; and there is hardly any way to communicate with the BECs. Try to understand the difficulties of those stuck at BECs instead of trying to make fun of them.
IV core has stated repeatedly that the BEC issue is on its agenda. Thanks.
To those members who say that "life isn't fair so get over it": We are here at IV not to get used to unfairness, but to do something about it. I was stuck at BEC for many years. It is the most unpredictable of all GC stages; and those who didn't have to go through the BEC mess should consider themselves lucky. Cases can drag on for years; cases get closed arbitrarily; and there is hardly any way to communicate with the BECs. Try to understand the difficulties of those stuck at BECs instead of trying to make fun of them.
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eb2_mumbai
09-25 10:37 AM
There are too many assumptions here. How I see this situation is;
EB3 I will not move significantly unless and until oversubscribed EB2s become current. Even then, it cannot be taken as granted because the demand of EB2s can take all the spill over and be current without spilling to EB3. USCIS will eventually make the change once they see that EB3 has significant retrogression and there is a lot of noise made about it.
The solution I see is; we can make a valid presentation showing the effects of this spillover change in the long run and how EB3s will be affected seriously.
This is my take on spill over interpretation and please dont feel bad if you do not like it. Lets take it this way assume we have 40K extra visa # from EB1 and ROW categories that need to be spilled over to ICPM countries. Now you have two options
1) Spill it by PD. Which helps EB3 (I)
2) Spill it by category which helps EB2 (I) & EB2(C)
If you look at numbers EB3 I # are huge so inspite of pumping 40K into it the numbers barely inch forward. We have seen this all the way till 2007. Where as in just 2 years of spillover EB2 I has moved into 2005 with prediction of becoming current in 2-3 years.
Now if I was USCIS director and going to Senate hearing. What would I like to tell them that I have used all visa # and EB2 & EB3 are severly backlogged. Or should I say I used up all visa # and now EB1 & Eb2 are current and we have backlogs in only Eb3 category.
Just that I feel USCIS can claim more bang for buck when they spill in EB2. (just my theory not justyfying it). Also I feel Eb2 is used by large US corporations for its H1 employees especially STEM graduates working. Example Intel, Texas Instruments, Microsoft etc also large financial companies especially for employees on business side (not IT employees). There is pressure from these companies since they do not want to lose some one with business knowledge because of immigrations rules. Just look at how many times Bill Gates has shown up on Senate floor to pitch for EB immigration reform. If you make EB2 current you can shut him up since most Micro Soft employees are under Eb2 category. That way you are effectively muting the critisism againt you on senate floor.
This way USCIS can also keep these people happy since they can claim that EB2 which translates as Exceptional Ability and Advanced Degrees are now close to current. The only catch is consulting companies and outsourcing companies have sneaked large number of people into Eb2 and they have become lucky.
EB3 I will not move significantly unless and until oversubscribed EB2s become current. Even then, it cannot be taken as granted because the demand of EB2s can take all the spill over and be current without spilling to EB3. USCIS will eventually make the change once they see that EB3 has significant retrogression and there is a lot of noise made about it.
The solution I see is; we can make a valid presentation showing the effects of this spillover change in the long run and how EB3s will be affected seriously.
This is my take on spill over interpretation and please dont feel bad if you do not like it. Lets take it this way assume we have 40K extra visa # from EB1 and ROW categories that need to be spilled over to ICPM countries. Now you have two options
1) Spill it by PD. Which helps EB3 (I)
2) Spill it by category which helps EB2 (I) & EB2(C)
If you look at numbers EB3 I # are huge so inspite of pumping 40K into it the numbers barely inch forward. We have seen this all the way till 2007. Where as in just 2 years of spillover EB2 I has moved into 2005 with prediction of becoming current in 2-3 years.
Now if I was USCIS director and going to Senate hearing. What would I like to tell them that I have used all visa # and EB2 & EB3 are severly backlogged. Or should I say I used up all visa # and now EB1 & Eb2 are current and we have backlogs in only Eb3 category.
Just that I feel USCIS can claim more bang for buck when they spill in EB2. (just my theory not justyfying it). Also I feel Eb2 is used by large US corporations for its H1 employees especially STEM graduates working. Example Intel, Texas Instruments, Microsoft etc also large financial companies especially for employees on business side (not IT employees). There is pressure from these companies since they do not want to lose some one with business knowledge because of immigrations rules. Just look at how many times Bill Gates has shown up on Senate floor to pitch for EB immigration reform. If you make EB2 current you can shut him up since most Micro Soft employees are under Eb2 category. That way you are effectively muting the critisism againt you on senate floor.
This way USCIS can also keep these people happy since they can claim that EB2 which translates as Exceptional Ability and Advanced Degrees are now close to current. The only catch is consulting companies and outsourcing companies have sneaked large number of people into Eb2 and they have become lucky.
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diptam
06-26 01:45 PM
Lawyers are making good money - they are intimidating everyone who wants to file on their own !!!
My company asked me for a agreement to give me the letter - that agreement is also crafted by a Lawyer - Business everywhere !!
And I got this reply :
See, hear that ? "NO WAY FOR USCIS". Now, I dont know why some lawyers are spreading this nonsense that "BEWARE, USCIS will stop accepting new petitions if they receive 'too many petitions'. What is 'too many ??? Who defines 'too many'? Is 'too many' defined as the time when the mail room clerk gets back pain from lifting boxes of petitions ? Or the guy printing 485 receipt notices gets carpel tunnel syndrome ?
PLEASE PUT THIS IDEA TO REST. USCIS WILL ACCEPT PETITIONS THRU JULY 31, NO MATTER HOW TIRED THEY ARE AND NO MATTER HOW SICK THEY GET OF SEEING 485 FEDEXes COMING IN DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. GOT IT ????
My company asked me for a agreement to give me the letter - that agreement is also crafted by a Lawyer - Business everywhere !!
And I got this reply :
See, hear that ? "NO WAY FOR USCIS". Now, I dont know why some lawyers are spreading this nonsense that "BEWARE, USCIS will stop accepting new petitions if they receive 'too many petitions'. What is 'too many ??? Who defines 'too many'? Is 'too many' defined as the time when the mail room clerk gets back pain from lifting boxes of petitions ? Or the guy printing 485 receipt notices gets carpel tunnel syndrome ?
PLEASE PUT THIS IDEA TO REST. USCIS WILL ACCEPT PETITIONS THRU JULY 31, NO MATTER HOW TIRED THEY ARE AND NO MATTER HOW SICK THEY GET OF SEEING 485 FEDEXes COMING IN DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. GOT IT ????
khukubindu
05-12 12:23 PM
PD App in FY 05 App in 06 Total
3/28/05-4/30/05 12 12
5/1/05 - 5/31/05 89 85
6/1/05 - 6/30/05 110 239
7/1/05 -7/31/05 175 334 509
8/1/05 - 8/30/05 421 402 823
9/1/05 - 9/30/05 694 79 773
10/1/05- 10/31/05 944 944
11/1/05 - 11/30/05 906 906
12/1/05 - 12/31/05 1022 1022
1/1/06 - 1/31/06 1007 1007
2/1/06 -- 2/28/06 952 952
3/1/06- 3/31/06 1140 1140
4/1/06- 4/30/06 896 896
5/1/06 - 5/31/06 980 980
6/1/06 - 6/30/06 916 916
7/1/06 - 7/31/06 775 775
3/28/05-4/30/05 12 12
5/1/05 - 5/31/05 89 85
6/1/05 - 6/30/05 110 239
7/1/05 -7/31/05 175 334 509
8/1/05 - 8/30/05 421 402 823
9/1/05 - 9/30/05 694 79 773
10/1/05- 10/31/05 944 944
11/1/05 - 11/30/05 906 906
12/1/05 - 12/31/05 1022 1022
1/1/06 - 1/31/06 1007 1007
2/1/06 -- 2/28/06 952 952
3/1/06- 3/31/06 1140 1140
4/1/06- 4/30/06 896 896
5/1/06 - 5/31/06 980 980
6/1/06 - 6/30/06 916 916
7/1/06 - 7/31/06 775 775
ArunAntonio
02-01 07:23 PM
Is this of any concern / benefit to us ?